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Added: Aug 11, 2008

From: MuslimByChoice

Duration: 22:53

Where does Christianity come from? Was Paul really `the founder of Christianity'? Did he, in other words, invent Christianity as we now know it Conventional wisdom ascribes the responsibility for Christianity as a religion to Jesus Christ - after all, it is named after him. But what if conventional wisdom is wrong? More than one scholar over the years has suggested that perhaps Paul should be regarded as the true founder of Christianity. Can a case for this position really be made? The importance of Paul to early Christianity and the formation of the New Testament can scarcely be exaggerated. Representing the Muslim perspective was Shabir ally: Shabir Ally holds a B.A. in Religious Studies from Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, with a specialization in Biblical Literature, and an M.A. in Religious Studies from the University of Toronto with a specialization in Quranic Exegesis. He is now in his third year of PhD studies in Quranic Exegesis at the University of Toronto. Shabir is the founder of the Islamic Information and Da'wah Centre in Toronto, Canada. Representing the Christian side was Rev. Clifford J. Forward: Rev. Forward is a non-denominational Christian, He's 'been a student of the Bible for over 40 years. He delivered nemorous lectures on the Bible, and recently lectured in Atlanta Georgia. He has traveled and taught the Bible in various parts of the world including the following countries: Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia, Ecuador, USA and England. He also lectured on bible topics on a number of bible conferences. The Topic of Debate: Did Paul invent Christianity? Shabir Ally (www.Shabirally.com) vs. Clifford Forward (Toronto, Canada 19th June 1999) For further information on upcoming or previous debates click here http://www.shabirally.com/debates.as

Channel: Education

Tags: allah  ally  apostle  apostleship  bible  christ  christianity  clifford  debate  divinity  false  forward  god  godhead  islam  jesus  paul  peter  qur'an  scripture  shabir  sonship 


Rating: 4.69 (13 ratings)    Views: 658' favoriteCount='13    Comments: 15

GuidSaucy Says:

Aug 13, 2008 - Jesus is Lord, God.

topdawg911 Says:

Aug 13, 2008 - How can he be god when he ate and drank. Because we all know what happens after eating and drinking...

HamzaIsa Says:

Aug 13, 2008 - your faith is blind faith i am sorry to say. it is not reasonable to say God is 3 in 1 or that he committed suicide on a cross to save humanity. ever heard of Mithra? accept Islam as your religion

facilisdescenus Says:

Aug 13, 2008 - fully god AND fully man

facilisdescenus Says:

Aug 13, 2008 - Mithra has nothing to do with Christianity (watch KabaneTheChristian's video on Mithras)

Zangetso81 Says:

Aug 13, 2008 - saying fully god AND fully man, is like saying 100% lier and 100% honest , 100% male and 100% female, 100% dead and 100% alive, 100% complete and 100% incomplete, 100% angle 100% divel. if you say this can happen then you must fix your mind.

deeba123 Says:

Aug 14, 2008 - God has created billions of galaxies within which there are billions of stars, what you say is that after all this, he becomes a man?? what a load of bullshit... think!! God is way too great to do this, he does not need to do this..

HamzaIsa Says:

Aug 14, 2008 - its is very easy just to dismiss Mithra as you and many do. the similarities are too remarkable to ignore. listen to more of Shaibir Ally's debates and everything will, God willing, become clear to you about Christianity.

facilisdescenus Says:

Aug 14, 2008 - He did not do it for his sake He did it for ours

facilisdescenus Says:

Aug 14, 2008 - To be honest with you the only information we have about the Roman Mithras postdates Christianity and Paul and the other Mithras (Persian Mithras) contains no simmilarities.That is why I dismiss Mithras.

deeba123 Says:

Aug 14, 2008 - still, i would not belive it for a micro sec

Cephas112 Says:

Aug 14, 2008 - did u see william lane craig own shabir ally on the resurrection debate go watch it if u havent

tudungsenduk Says:

Sep 5, 2008 - "fully god AND fully man" Just like hercules.

tudungsenduk Says:

Sep 5, 2008 - Satan came to Paul and they invented the three Gods.

almao2006 Says:

Sep 20, 2008 - Paul/Saul was inspired by the Devil!