Ahmadiyyah - End of the Prophets

Philip0Stewart Says:

Jan 15, 2008 - these people behave exactly like munafiqs of medina, their only arguement is against Ulema and the Muslims. No jew or christian has as much hatred for muslims as these people. Islam and Muslims are labels they use to gain credibilty, it is infact a money making scheme.

Philip0Stewart Says:

Jan 15, 2008 - They do not discuss or debate with any logic or evidence, because they are not really interested in iman. I thought when i was young it was because they had not seen the hadiths, but even when I showed them they dont care. they spilt hairs like the munafiqeen of madina.

Philip0Stewart Says:

Jan 15, 2008 - They claim to be champions of islam, what a joke, their so called mosques are desserted at salah time, at fajr u would be lucky if the place opened. Their leader is not a scholar but an ignorant unread farmer. The few of them that are sincere see thru the rubbish and become muslims, the rest, they are competing to enter the fire, and may Allah protect us. ameen.

saadb1990 Says:

Jan 16, 2008 - why are you going against Islam by saying only Arab's or Jews can be prophets. Do you not know that Muhammad(saw) said that there are 124,000 prophets sent by Allah. Also the Qu'ran says that there is not a nation to which a messanger was not sent. So do you still hold to the veiw that prophets can only be Arab or Jews????????????????

saadb1990 Says:

Jan 16, 2008 - Brother i think this verse is very hard for you ti Grasp. All that i am saying is: 1. this verse refers to people who are being worshipped as god. (including Isa(as), namrood & feron) 2. the verse tells us that these people have died, NOT LIVING 3. this verse does not refer to idols because idols do not have souls therefore they cannot be rearrected & judged. Whats so hard to grasp??????

SaifullaKhalid Says:

Jan 17, 2008 - Sahih Bukhari states a Hadith in which Ibn e Abbas (ra) told someone to recite the word Khatam with a fath (zabar) on the letter "ta". What was in his mind when he said that?

SaifullaKhalid Says:

Jan 17, 2008 - What will be the status of Jesus son of Mary (as) when he is sent at the end of times? The Promised Messiah will be called "Prophet of God," Nabiyullah. Muslim, Vol. 2, p.515 Does this not contradict your translation of the verse?

farhan00 Says:

Jan 17, 2008 - No.

farhan00 Says:

Jan 17, 2008 - Abu Sufiyan fought against Islam for his entire life and accepted Islam in the very end of his life. We do not know who Allah will guide...or misguide.

SaifullaKhalid Says:

Jan 18, 2008 - Farhan, on one hand you are saying that no prophets can come after Holy Prophet (saw), yet you believe that Jesus (as) will descend. If your argument is that Jesus (as) was already a prophet and his coming back will not cause any difference to the Khatam e Nabuwwah, then please tell me who will be the last prophet on earth?

looking4right Says:

Jan 18, 2008 - hej saadb would you please would like to have a dialouge with me on MSN, ICQ etc cause in that case i ll be able to tell you many things which you are missinterpreting here, please do it THANX.

Philip0Stewart Says:

Jan 18, 2008 - what a stupid thing to say....but it doesnt surprise me, u people r at war with islam

mirzmaster Says:

Jan 18, 2008 - You preface your argument by saying there are 10 qira'ah and none is more authentic/correct than the other, but yet your whole argument is based on your preference for the qira'ah that translates to "end". Why? Also, your argument about Isa (as) being the last prophet on earth but not the end is entirely misguided. It does not take a religious scholar to tell you it sounds like a loophole, but let's examine this.

mirzmaster Says:

Jan 18, 2008 - Why would Allah send a prophet of Israel to the ummah of Muhammad (saw)? If "Khatam" is also valid (i.e. seal) according to you, why send a prophet who does NOT bear the seal of Muhammad (saw)? I want to close by saying I appreciate the dignity and polite manner with which you speak.

mirzmaster Says:

Jan 19, 2008 - farhan, I need to point out here that your point B is in direct contradiction to the other video of yours where you address the coming of Isa (as) after Muhammad (saw). In that video you attempt to reconcile the illogical view of Isa (as) being a prophet, yet somehow not violating the finality of prophethood. Yet now you are saying he will return NOT as a prophet??

mirzmaster Says:

Jan 19, 2008 - I should also add that if you side by the view that Isa (as) will return as an ummati, this will simply be word-play on your part. He will arrive having been commissioned by Allah to oppose falsehood and re-establish truth. By ANY measure, this is prophethood.

farhan00 Says:

Jan 20, 2008 - huh? what are you talking about?

sarmadahmad Says:

Jan 22, 2008 - Hadhrat Abdrur Rahman narrates that he used to teach Hadhrat Hasan and Hussein (as). Once Hadhrat Ali (ra), passed nearby him whilst he was teaching them. He said to him, 'Teach them Khataman Nabiyyeen with the vowal a (fat'ha) on ta. [Durr-e-Manthur, Vol.5, Pg.386] Can Farhaan00 present a single quote from the Prophet (saw) or his 4 Khulaf Rashideens which says that reading "Khatim" in 33:40 is also correct? If not then how could he claim that both Qira'ats of 33:40 are of same authenticity?

coralsnakes Says:

Jan 22, 2008 - MR farhan00, simply Quran has no contradictions in it what so ever. ***accept that first***hope to agree*** now what about verse 69, CH 4, """Whoso obeyeth Allah and the messenger, they are with those unto whom Allah hath shown favour, of the prophets and the saints and the martyrs and the righteous. The best of company are they! (69)""""

coralsnakes Says:

Jan 22, 2008 - Muslim Ummah would have so bad and crypt that there would no one in the Whole Muslims who could become prophet then they will have to barrow a prophet of another religion who will put the muslim ummah to the right path... What a non sense... LA HO LA WA QUA TA... INA LILLAH... NON AHMADI MUSLIMS WILL HAVE TO GET JESUS OF ISRAEL WHO WILL THEN GUIDE THE MUSLIMS... MAKES ME LAUGH...

coralsnakes Says:

Jan 22, 2008 - sarmadahmad, non Ahmadi Muslims would accept to create contradictions in the Holly Quran but ppl like farhan00 would not accept the truth that prophets can come...they are helpless...we can just pray for these poor people...MAy Allah Guide All NON AHMADI MUSLIMS TO THE RIGHT PATH...

irfan786in Says:

Jan 22, 2008 - Coralsnakes: Hazrat Isa was a Muslim in present terminology, moreover he will return back as a ummati of Muhammed(PBHU. You believing in Ghulam Ahmed is nothing but kufr. May Allah guide qadiani bros and sis to Islam.

looking4right Says:

Jan 22, 2008 - They are with the one, but they cant become Prophets?they are with martyrs but they are not martyrs, they are with Saints but they are not saints. Hope you understand

looking4right Says:

Jan 22, 2008 - Ali taught them how to pronounce, since there are 8 different styles, Khatam and KhatiM leads to the same conclusion. Ali(r.a) was not the narrator of Quran, the hadith on this subject is mentioned below:

looking4right Says:

Jan 22, 2008 - Ibn Abbas reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Gabriel taught me to recite in one style. I replied to him and kept asking him to give more (styles), till he reached seven modes (of recitation). Ibn Shihab said: It has reached me that these seven styles are essentially one, not differing about what is permitted and what is forbidden. (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, p.390).