Sqorpio1980 Says:
Feb 12, 2008 - Stretch This I Dare U!. The 144000 Will Not Be Corrupted By Churchs For They Will Be Virgins! And Cought Up Means Catch Up Idiots!.
okebaram Says:
May 21, 2008 - #1 I have to make a correction on 1 of the statements I made in this vid (because I want my vids to be perfect y'all). I said that David and all the OT saints are dead waiting for the rapture and that they are the 144,000. Not quite. In fact I will make a corrected video for Rev 7B soon. The reason I said that was because God has shown me that the scenario in which destruction is withheld & the 144,000 are sealed and seen along with millions from all tribes represents the rapture...
okebaram Says:
May 21, 2008 - #2 That part is correct and my statements here about the 144,000 are close to accurate. But there's a small error. Having had this revelation from God, I personally deduced that since this event represents the rapture & resurrection of OT saints who are seen in heaven (not on earth y'all: forget the theory of Jews being suddenly converted on earth as the interpretation of the "sealing") that the 144,000 had to represent the OT Jews. But I should have checked with God on that one...
okebaram Says:
May 21, 2008 - #3 I remember feeling a nudge in my belly when I stated that David is in the ground and I knew the Holy Spirit was saying "not quite" but I rationalized myself into thinking I was right and dismissing the nudge I had felt. Later, funny as this sounds, when I heard of a man's visit to heaven and how he met David (Jesse Duplantis is that man), I remembered not receiving confirmation for my reasoning that the OT saints are still awaiting resurrection & wondering why they didnt arise when Jesus died
okebaram Says:
May 21, 2008 - #4 So I asked God about it. Here's the correct analysis: The OT Jews did sleep to await resurrection. OT Jews like David and all the Israelites who kept God's holy statutes were raptured the moment Jesus shut his eyes in death on Calvary & they are in heaven. However not all. There are OT believers, both Jews & foreigners who associated themselves with the Jewish true GOD, who lived godly lives but did not keep all the OT laws because before Jesus came, Israel had slowly lost its practice...
okebaram Says:
May 21, 2008 - #5 ...and lost the exact practices handed to Moses that linked them to the promise of salvation in Christ, plus the foreign believers including Samarians lived in different cultures altogether, although they practiced the most important laws. Those missing rituals prevent these belivers from being legally justified unto the salvation in Jesus' blood unless the earth is legally under God's kingdom authority. But it isn't. At the rapture, however, Jesus sets up His kingdom and ends man's kingdom.
okebaram Says:
May 21, 2008 - 6 With earth now being His, the smaller requirements which these saints broke do not apply & they are linked justly to the atonement of Jesus' blood. Note: the rapture is when Jesus takes over earth. During the 7-year trib, Jesus is in charge. He holds back setting up His kingdom & completely judging the wicked for about 7 yrs only bcos He's allowing those in the trib another chance to be saved (Oh He is so sweet). You betta watch this series if u still think the trib wont be a time of salvation
okebaram Says:
May 21, 2008 - #7 Soul-winning is in fact at the very focus of the tribulation era. The saints who did not fulfill all OT rituals but fulfilled the necessary heart towards God will be resurrected to heaven when the trumpet for the rapture sounds. They are the dead who rise in Christ first and meet with the raptured church in the air. They also are the 144,000 represented in Revelation 7. The number 144,000 may represtent a different number of actual believers who are in this category.
ben2gotube Says:
Jun 1, 2008 - There is no way in the Bible that the believers will be taken away first before the tribulation period. It is just merely your assumption. read the parable of the Tares. Read Mat 24:27-31. The 144,000 and all that die in Christ will be the ones who will be walking to the Millennial Kingdom He promised. The 144,000 after the SEALING will be protected by God.The SEAL is the SABBATH of God.
ben2gotube Says:
Jun 1, 2008 - Forgive me for telling you these things. I never want to offend you.
okebaram Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - All Youtubers listening to this, pls read the comments I made below.
okebaram Says:
Jan 16, 2008 - Notice how Paul uses alive AND remain (1 Thess 4:17). Alive means those who are alive, but that also includes so many late saints because believers who died after Jesus' work on Calvary went directly to heaven. Hence they are still alive today — in heaven. But to remain means to remain on earth. I have an interesting commentary on my position regarding the 144,000 that you have to read. It's located in the description to the right side of the video, under the "About the Video" tag.